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Dec 30, 2012 9:00am PST
, bob corber, and congressman labrador. cutting through the clutter of the fiscal cliff and 2016, yes 2016, with a.b. stoddard of the hill, "the washington post," "time" magazine's michael crowley and jessica yellen. i'm candy crowley. this is "state of the union." we still don't know if a deal is in the works or out of the question. mitch mcconnell promised aen update as soon as he had any news to make. that could happen when the senate convenes a rare sunday session of congress. looking to dominate his side of the story while leaders wrangle on the details, president obama made his first sunday show appearance in three years, sitting down with nbc's david gregory this morning to talk about the fiscal cliff. >> i'm arguing for maintaining tax cuts for 98% of americans. i don't think anybody would consider that some liberal left wing agenda. that used to be considered a republican mainstream agenda. >> joining me senator olympia sn snowe of maine. let me start with that. it does seem sort of counter intuitive to have republicans wanting to fight for tax hikes for no one and in that fi
CNN
Dec 27, 2012 9:00am PST
, the spending cuts known as the fiscal cliff, but we are four days away from another financial challenge. that is the debt ceiling. now, compared to reaching your limit on your credit card essentially, treasury secretary timothy geithner said the u.s. is going to reach its borrowing limit on monday. he says, quote, i am writing to inform you that the statutory debt limit will be reached on december 31st, 2012, and to notify you that the treasury department will shortly begin taking certain extraordinary measures authorized by law to temporarily postpone the date that the united states would otherwise default on its legal obligations. there is wiggle room. that is equivalent to two months of borrowing. >>> now to the other financial crisis that could mean higher taxes for all of us. will congress send the country over the fiscal cliff or will they come up with some sort of deal and hit the brakes? the senate returned today hopefully to come up with some kind of deal. dana bash is flling this on capitol hill. i imagine we're all working over the holidays and i fess we're going to be workin
CNN
Dec 25, 2012 4:00am PST
to deal with the long-term fiscal health of the country which is what the fiscal cliff was supposed to be an incentive to do, we're expecting now that this is just some measure to avert the fiscal cliff which is the tax hikes, the spending cuts, each if they deal with the spending cuts and we're waiting to see what the measure will look like. i know what a hard-hitting white house reporter you are. i want to know whether it's apple kay, pumpkin pie or peekan pie for the president and first family on christmas day. any news on the menu? >> reporter: no, i am still waiting to find out. maybe we'll find out a little later today. you don't frequently find out until they have just released it, until the white house releases the information so we'll be standing by to let you know how the president spends his holiday. nothing on his public schedule, but, you know, he normally visits with troops so we're expecting he might do that today here in hawaii. >> that would be a wonderful way to spend christmas day. brianna keilar live from honolulu, hawaii, thanks. >>> other stories in the news, a
CNN
Dec 31, 2012 11:00am PST
will the fiscal cliff. $600 billion worth of tax increases and spending cuts. it is supposed to be automatic. but now republicans are suggesting a delay, the president just spoke trying to add pressure to congress to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. listen. >> my preference would have been to solve all these problems in the context of a larger agreement, a bigger deal, a grand bargain, whatever you want to call it, that solves our deficit problems in a balanced and responsible way that doesn't just deal with the taxes, but deals with the spending in a balanced way, so that we can put all this behind us focusing on growing our economy. but with this congress, that was obviously a little too much to hope for at this time. >> let's turn now to chief white house correspondent jessica yellin. let's talk a little bit about the outlines of the deal, the fact that the president came out to make his case and try to push this thing over the finish line. what does the white house have to do to gain the backing it needs. >> reporter: well, what we heard from the president today just now was really an
CNN
Dec 27, 2012 1:00am PST
the fiscal cliff, president obama is cutting his hawaii vacation short, flying back to washington, uncertain what kind of deal making possibilities he will find when we will come back. republican leaders made no decision about when to call their members back nor it is clear what kind of deal, if any, they will have to vote on. a lot of digging tonight for cnn's dana bash. i understand there were no decisions out of this call, but do we have any sense of what fellow. >> rob:s are telling speaker boehner? how likely are we to see a vote in time to avoid going of the cliff? >> it really is up in the air. i'm told in part that's why house. >> rob:s didn't make a decision to bring the house back or when to do it because the ball really is in the senate's court, specifically with senate democrats. that has changed big time since a few weeks ago. at this point what they are trying to figure out is whether or not they can find enough republicans to cross party lines for what the president proposed right before he left for hawaii which is a scaled-back bill focusing on tax cuts and on what he campaig
CNN
Dec 31, 2012 4:00pm PST
to cut back, josh cohen blames fiscal cliff negotiations for throwing a wrench into his plan to expand his franchise. he started a business to remove junk from homes and businesses and now has about 50 employees. >> i'm just frustrated and angry. and i just want to move on and grow our business. and help to support the economy and all of the people that we employ. but instead, again, we're just kind of on hold here. >> with so many sectors of the economy bracing for financial pain, patience has worn thin among americans filing i reports like missy, of fayetteville, arkansas. >> this fiscal cliff mess shows how incredibly out of touch you are with the way people really live in this country. you are off in lala land, and eve everyone is saying how you're asking like spoiled brats who are more interested in being right than doing the right thing and representing the people who elected you. >> mary snow, cnn, new york. >> more interesting, being right than doing the right thing for your country. cnn's coverage of the fiscal cliff continues right after this.
CNN
Dec 31, 2012 1:00pm PST
and spending cuts, heading over the dreaded fiscal cliff. president obama says an agreement, though, is within sight. republican-led house of representatives, though, will now wait till after the country goes after that fiscal cliff at midnight tonight before coming up with a deal, if, in fact, there is a deal. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. >> let's get to the first breaking news story we're following right now. the secretary of state hillary clinton is in the hospital this new year's eve with a potentially serious blood clot which doctors have now revealed is located between her brain and her skull. let's go straight to cnn's foreign affairs correspondent jill dougherty for the latest. dr. gupta's going to join us momentarily as well. tell us what her doctors have just revealed. >> well, wolf, backing up just a little bit. all day today, the question was, where was that blood clot. because after all, in the statement that came out initially, it was no indicati
CNN
Dec 27, 2012 4:00pm PST
the fiscal cliff. meanwhile, president obama cut his hawaii vacation short to return to washington today. but has he been working on a deal? "outfront" tonight, reports from both ends of pennsylvania avenue. chief white house correspondent, jessica yellin, and senior congressional correspondent, dana bash. jessica, first, to you, the president's back in washington, wheels down. he left his christmas vacation early. but was this just a bit of showmanship, or has he been working on something specific? >> reporter: hey, john. well, today has been a bit of a quiet day here at the white house. publicly, the president has been scarce, no sign of him. behind closed doors, i'm told a few meetings internally, but mostly, relatively quiet. i expect we will see more from the president, perhaps we could even see him publicly tomorrow. perhaps he could even meet with or talk to some of the congressional leaders. the president's role in all of this, he can get each of the leaders to come closer on what the white house believes is already, pretty clearly, the framework for a final deal, and he can also
CNN
Dec 30, 2012 4:00pm PST
't want to see the fiscal cliff happen. they want to see the tax cuts for middle class people maintained and they want to see all the other things i suggested. these are relatively simple things. we don't have to get into the complexities of major spending cuts, entitlements. we can just do these things the president suggestened and put oursds in a position to tackle these more broad fiscal issues next year. >> valerie, i promise i'm going to get you in. are you a democrat? not valerie, john. >> well, we're a nonpartisan organization. >> because you're saying these things the president wants to get in. is this ideological for you because i'm reading between the lines of what you're saying. you're saying it appears this is being held up and it appears you're saying the republicans are holding it up. >> well, the president has put forth some pragmatic temporary solutions to get us to the point where we continue go over the fiscal cliff, and he said he's willing to sit down and talk with republicans about a broader deal next year. so that's really -- we have 24 hours here and that's what we
CNBC
Dec 24, 2012 6:00am EST
the fiscal cliff, however, and that's the bad news. and looming tax hikes, spending cuts, all of that. both sides warning a very big deal becoming a bit more unlikely. >> and my one bit of advice to speaker boehner is this. you cannot pass a bill with just republicans. on a broad thing like this, you need both. and he has put himself with plan b and sort of an impossible position. he has to get these hard right goes to go along with him. and he and the president were going to say we're going to pass a deal with the majority of republicans and the majority of democrats in the house and senate, we would get a mainstream deal. >> i think we're going to fall out of the fiscal tree. the big deal for the big deal is at the debt ceiling. that's when we will have leverage to turn the country around. >> congress is now out of session for the christmas holiday. but expect it to be back thursday. joe, we talked to some of the senators and congress last week saying will you come back from vacation? some of them pretend like they weren't going, but i think they really were. >> if boehner's leadership is
CNN
Dec 30, 2012 1:00pm PST
the fiscal cliff was coming. 12 years' notice we had these bush tax cuts were going to expire. these kind of discussions require air they require time they require debate and we are now having them. when john thune says he hopes that senator reid brings a bill to the floor and it is open to discussion and amendment, not today. not today. it's too late for that. make a deal and stop markets from going over the edge, stop this economy from going over the edge. they will ruin a good economy, martin this is ridiculous, irresponsible, disgusting behavior. >> you don't want to hear this kind of detailed conversation going on now? >> no. no. >> you want to get a deal done? >> forget t no more details. no more details. you had 550 dies come one details. today is not the day. today's only job is to come up with a deal that ainvestigators going over the fiscal cliff and anything other than that is absolute irresponsibility you congressional malpractice. >> any deal? in other words, say some sort of temporary fix or have to be that long-term overhaul? >> i don't think -- at this point, beggers can't
CNN
Dec 30, 2012 2:00pm PST
accountable in realtime to do their jobs. we shouldn't be in this fiscal cliff today. we shouldn't have had sequestration and automatic cuts. we shouldn't have had the debt controlling debackle. all that was manufactured by the united states congress. and so i'm sanded by where we stand. >> can i ask you this is with all respect is there a concern that perhaps you're almost bailing at a time when your moderation is needed most? >> i think it is important to have centrist voices in the united states sales in the but given the fact that i have spent 34 years in the united states congress, i thought that in looking over the next six years whether or not it would appreciably change, i didn't think so. i thought it was best to contribute my experience and insiders a voice to match the outsider's frustration and to talk about how it can change and how it used to work i don't see how it changing on the short term, given the partisanship, polarization, putting the political parties first around not the country's interest first, the outside groups that you perpetuate division, i thought i could best
CNN
Dec 27, 2012 8:00am PST
. his holiday vacation so he could deal with the looming fiscal cliff. all eyes are on that now and everyone wondering whether congress will be able to reach a deal by january 1st. if not, spending cuts and tax hikes for every american will go into effect and we're watching that story very, very closely. as i mentioned, just five days left before the new year. but wait, before they bring out the champagne and confetti on the 31st, folks in washington need to start making big decisions regarding that fiscal cliff. here's what will happen if no deal is reached. the economy could fall into a recession. that's been widely reported. the congressional budget office forecasts a drop of .5% in the real gross domestic product and a 9.1% unemployment rate by the end of next year. markets in the u.s. and around the world could take a hit. right now the dow is down almost 100 points. no santa clauz rally this year. managing director of the boston consulting group joins me from chicago. great to see you. happy holidays. let's talk about the effect on the economy. i think it's important to po
CNN
Dec 26, 2012 1:00pm PST
at avoiding the fiscal cliff. the sharp tax increases and across the board spending cuts scheduled to take effect next week. cnn's white house correspondent brianna keilar is traveling with the president. >> reporter: president obama will leave tonight, travel overnight and arrive in washington late thursday morning as the senate is set to reconvene. all eyes right now are on the upper chamber of congress as this really is coming down to harry reid trying to cobble together a measure to avert the fiscal cliff. whether that can be achieved is still very much up in the air. as of right now, president obama has gone back to his original demand that the bush era tax cuts be extended only for the first $250,000 in earnings. the white house is talking to senate democrats about what their proposal may look like. but as of yet, neither is in communication with congressional republicans. and as the white house hashes out details of the reid plan with senate democrats, it's at this moment unclear exactly what form it will take, what it will look like, other than to deal no doubt wheith tax cuts. det
CNN
Dec 24, 2012 2:00am PST
for the president to go off the fiscal cliff. but both sides are saying, you know what? maybe it's better to go off the cliff. politically, members of congress will have to vet on tax cuts as opposed to now which are tax increases which are much harder to take. >> that's right. because the tax hikes will happen whether or not congress acts, so the school of thought here is that if republicans and temp kratz were to allow this just to happen, then they could vote for infect only tax cuts, not be on the record voting for tax hikes. now for the very staunch anti tax folks, it's unclear if that would really pass muster with them, but certainly this is something being considered you know, dana. >> absolutely. i'm sure the markets won't know that. brianna, good to see you. while in hawaii, president obama and first lady michelle obama paid their respects to late senator daniel inouye. inouye died last week from a respiratory illness. he was 88 years old. following that the president went to visit the grave of his old grandfather who is buried at the very same cemetery. >> he will be missed and remembered
CNN
Dec 30, 2012 11:30am PST
in order to reach this fiscal cliff solution. only 22% think those lawmakers need to stick to their guns and not budge. either on tax increases or spending cuts. >> so we know that gridlock has been a big problem and we're seeing more, it appears on this issue. in the end could this result in who has the upper hand in public support? >> that's the game they're playing, is it the republicans to blame or the democrats? president obama has seen an increase in his numbers as they've been going through this. as you saw with dana bash, they're at a standstill, who knows what they're going to do. we asked citizens who do you think is to blame and let's take a look at those numbers. over half of americans, 54% support president obama and his handling of the fiscal cliff situations, that's compared to what, 28% of american who is approve of house speaker john boehner and the job that he's doing. you know, senate majority leader, harry reid has got an approval rating just a little bit above that, 34% for his role in the fiscal cliff negotiations. >> let's move on to other polling information. whic
CNN
Dec 27, 2012 11:00am PST
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CNN
Dec 27, 2012 5:00pm PST
could drive the nation over the fiscal cliff, that their opponents have something to gain by letting the deadline pass. do they have a point? do either have anything to gain if there's no deal in time? >> right now, both sides are trying to win a pr war. as we have been saying, it's increasingly likely we go over the cliff. now there's just a lot of posturing. for republicans. it's a lot of arguing to the base because what they're trying to do, they can't be seen as raising -- voting to raise taxes on people. for democrats, it's positioning for the larger public because they have to be seen as, in their view, upholding the president's promise made during the campaign to increase taxes on the wealthiest and hold them down for middle-class americans. right now, the polling is with the president and with democrats. but if we go over the cliff, it's not hard to project that in a few weeks' time, all of that is going to shift, and the american public will blame everyone in washington, and everyone will be hurt. so the two sides have to make a deal in short order, whether it's before janua
CNN
Dec 27, 2012 7:00pm PST
's tax cuts that he passed after we went over the fiscal cliff, it then loses whatever upside there was for republicans, except, and we have to mention this, for republicans vulnerable to primary challenges, there's obviously a lot of anxiety about being, you know, the first republican in 20 years to vote for a tax increase. i think that's the big fear, that it's been so long. republicans haven't cast this kind of vote. you don't want to be the first one to do it. >> yeah, and charles, we're told the democrats may be waiting until the very last minute. maybe they're banking on pressure and the gop caving. what should americans make of that? with so much at stake here? >> i don't think it is. i think there's gamesmanship on both sides, that's obviously true, but i think democrats understand they get a better deal out of this if they actually go over the cliff. what the president was offering, his last round of offers, was in fact something that a lot of democrats and liberals did not take kindly to. in fact, when boehner was not able to pass plan b, he threw the president a lif
CNN
Dec 27, 2012 1:00pm PST
all know is coming, the fiscal cliff. the combination of tax hikes and spending cuts hit in just five days. you need to take a deep breath. you probably won't notice much, if anything right away, even if congress and president can't reach a deal. jessica yellin is joining us. i have not talked to a soul in the last week who believes that they are actually going to get a deal before january 1st. what is the temperature at the white house at this point? >> reporter: negotiations, candy. what do you mean by negotiations? i can actually report right now, thanks to our own ted baron and dana bash that harry reid, the senate majority leader, and minority leader mitch mcconnell are meeting right now as we speak. perhaps there could be incremental progress. but as you well know, time is running out and the president today spent his day behind closed doors. he did cut his vacation short after he came home from hawaii to at least be here and try to put on some kind of an agreement and as we go over the fiscal cliff, both sides seem to be working hard to do that. the president spoke with congres
CNN
Dec 26, 2012 11:00am PST
until we hit the fiscal cliff. the president is cutting short his hawaiian vacation to go back to work. we'll look at whether a deal is likely to get done. >>> and not what people in alabama wanted for christmas. tornadoes ripped through the south. >> i prayed to god as loud as i could and i was just praying for my safety. and i knew that -- i prayed that the church stayed put. rsal] ♪ everybody well don't you know it's me now? ♪ ♪ yeah who's it, who's it huh? ♪ ♪ willy's back with a brand new beat now, ♪ ♪ yeah doin' it doin' it up! ♪ heyyy yeah, tryin' to bite my style! ♪ ♪ heyyy yeah, how you like me now? ♪ ♪ na na na na na na na na ♪ and everybody go uh! >>> we told you last hour president obama is spending his last few hours in hawaii before returng early to washington. he's expected to arrive tomorrow, just five days ahead of the fiscal cliff, which includes an across the board tax hike that congress has tried but failed to undo. cnn's dana bash is with us from washington, our senior congressional correspondent. we spoke last hour. you told us that hour
CNN
Dec 24, 2012 4:00am PST
and spending cuts this holiday seas season. only eight days left until america goes off the fiscal cliff. both sides are taking a holiday break, and all we're getting is the blame game. some republicans suggesting that the doomsday scenario that's now unfolding is all part of a white house plan. >> when i listen to the president, i think the president is eager to go over the cliff for political purposes. i think he sees a political victory at thement bot of the cliff. he gets all this additional tax revenue for new program. he gets to cut the military, which democrats have been calling for for years, and he gets to blame republicans for it. >> white house correspondent breanna keilar has the envy of all assignments of traveling with the president and joins us live from honolulu, hawaii, this morning. breanna, good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning to you, alina. the bottom line here, beginning this week, is that substantive conversations between democrats and republicans are basically nonexistent. the white house and senate democrats are not in communication not only with house republi
CNN
Dec 25, 2012 2:00am PST
motive. >> terrible story. a week before the fiscal cliff, tax hikes for all americans and spending cuts that could pull the economy back into recession. ho, ho, ho. that makes everybody happy on christmas morning. president obama spent christmas eve playing a round of golf with friends and the democratic senate looks like the only hope for crushing the deadlock. our white house correspondent brianna keilar maybe with a little bit of news which is pathetic because it's talks within the democratic party, but at least they are talking. >> reporter: that's right. is it really news that democrats are talking? that's all the news we have to report as of today. i know i feel a little bit like a grinch reporting this, but the white house is in talks with senate democrats. that's not really surprising as we look to the senate to be the next -- really the next ones to act on this when they reconvene on the 27th. right now it's really up to senate majority leader harry reid to try to cobble something together that can get some republican support in the senate and the house to avoid the fiscal clif
CNN
Dec 24, 2012 6:00am PST
that are the other part of the fiscal cliff will likely set in. and then what happens there will maybe be something that democrats and republicans try to deal with in the coming weeks, in the coming months. that means even come say the end of the year here or if we go over the cliff and there's some quick resolution, it's not for everything and we'll be dealing with a lot of these problems for some time, carol. >> what's the president doing in hawaii? >> reporter: the president has been getting in some r and r. he arrived saturday morning. he played golf with some of his buddies. he wept outer with his wife. yesterday he attended the ceremony for senator daniel inn way. and then he went for a hike in the afternoon with his daughters. this may be his one chance for a vacation and you may recall he didn't get one this summer. he decided not to go on his normal vacation in the election year. so this is really it for him. >> brianna keilar, thank you. >>> the gun control debate is intensifying. the nra's executive vice president made the circuit on sunday morning. he went on "meet the press" saying cal
CNN
Dec 24, 2012 8:00am PST
relating to the fiscal cliff is dana bash. she joins me now from washington. dana, great to see you again. tell me does even a band-aid approach work? >> it's going to be tough. this is all math. but it really has to do with the math with regard to votes. and democrats especially who i'm talking to in the senate which is probably where this will originate, the reality is that democrats don't hold a very big majority. her going to need to have a handful of republicans to cross party lines and vote with them on the whole concept of raising any taxes. especially what the president wants which is something that is raising taxes on all americans making more than $250,000. that's the senate. never mind the house, which of course, made clear to the house speaker that they won't even go for something that's a million dollars or more when it comes to tax increases. that was last week. >> dana, you were saying that when you were reporting on it when it was breaking that evening, you called that devastating for john boehner. now that house republicans have clearly rebelled against john boehner, can
CNN
Dec 31, 2012 9:00am PST
in this fight. >> americans aren't the only ones watching closely for signs of a fiscal cliff deal today. the world is watching, too. it's because the big tax hikes and spending cuts here could have a chilling effect on the global economy. we want to bring in richard quest from london. richard, we know that folks are watching this. perhaps not the minutia how we're following it in washington and the negotiations process from hour to hour and minute to minute it seems. certainly in the final stages of it this whether or not this is actually going to happen. why does it make such a big difference? >> reporter: it makes a huge difference because the rest of the globe, particularly say for example the european union and the euro zone is barely growing. it's stagnant and was in recession in '12. it could be in recession in '13. if you lop off any growth from the u.s. economy, that will have a ripple affect across the althouthe atlantic. you will feel the ripples go across the pacific to asia and japan and china and to all those countries and across the atlantic to europe. i was talking a few
CNN
Dec 30, 2012 10:00am PST
are the top stories this hour. right now, congress scrambling to reach a deal on the fiscal cliff before tuesday's deadline president the senate and house are convening while senate negotiators work at a plan to prevent massive spending cuts and tax hikes from kicking in january 1st. president obama appeared today on nbc's "meet the press" and said the cuts in spending need to be fairly distributed. >> what i'm not willing to do is to have the entire burden of deficit reduction rest on the shoulders of seniors making students pay a higher student loan rates, ruining our capacity to invest in things like basic research that help our economy grow. >> in news overseas the bodies of the dead are being carried away in syria today. at least 397 people were killed saturday. that is the deadliest day so far in the 21-month long civil war. another 52 died today. the joint u.n. arab league envoy said the situation is rapidly deteriorating but that a solution is still possible. >>> in massachusetts boston's mayor lifted a snow emergency a little earlier today. more than a foot of snow fell on sever
CNBC
Dec 27, 2012 3:00pm EST
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Dec 31, 2012 8:00am PST
more on that and the fiscal cliff negotiations in a minute. >>> first, i want to show you the rest of the world is ringing in the new year. midnight arrived in asia. they are calling it a pyre tech nick musical. they were scheduled to begin an hour before midnight. hong kong on the top ten places to ring in the new year. let's listen. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >>> ring in the new year, good morning 2013. we'll continue to monitor all of these celebrations as the day rolls on. the night rolls on in some cases. midnight in the u.s. is the big fiscal cliff deadline. there are two fronts we are watching today. capitol hill and wall street. let's see if there's any movement on capitol hill. stock markets moving up because it's a little erratic. dana bash is watching that live for us. dana, last hour you were saying progress is being made. now you've been hearing rumblings on the opposite from the far left. what are you hearing now? >> very interesting. we have been hearing from both sides of the aisle that part of the big issue has been to get over objections from conservative republicans who are
CNN
Dec 30, 2012 3:00pm PST
our economy back into the recession if we go over the fiscal cliff. >> but ali, neither side is budging much. you have been reporting on it for the last couple of hours. friday though, president obama said that he was optimistic that the two sides could reach a deal. this morning, he sounded less positive though. >> if, you know, if people start seeing that on january 1st, this problem still has not been solved, that we haven't seen the kind of deficit reduction that we could have had, had the republicans been willing to take the deal they gave them, and if they say that people's taxes have gone up which means consumer spending will go down. >> and keep in mind that the senate is the first hurdle. any deal has to pass the house. we are not into the senate yet and the republican speaker john boehner plablamed the crisis one president saying he the one who has never found a way to say yes. >> so you are in new york and i'm in atlanta, and we get to washington now, because the senior congressional correspondent dana bash is closely following the negotiations from capitol hill, a
FOX News
Dec 30, 2012 9:00pm PST
to say, look, we won an ideological fight that the fiscal cliff is just a minor blip with you in the long run they actually won a large chunk of what they've been after? >> we're going to have to see what is the impact in the the days ahead. can the republicans somehow turn that around? they certainly, inside the white house believe just the opposite because they believe that john boehner was sort of out maneuvered here, he had been pressing the president, pressing the president for some of his issues and what boehner may have forgotten is at the end of the day if there's no action by the congress, all of the bush tax rates are expiring, so the president is going to get what he's wanted in this debate all along, which is that taxes are going up on the rich and-- >> the president's outmaneuvered the republicans from the very beginning on this. >> ed doesn't have to answer that question. >> and kimberly, we're going to give you the last question, before we go to mike emanuel. >> i have a civilized question for mr. henry. >> and civilized-- >> my goodness, bob. >> it sounds worse than the ne
MSNBC
Dec 28, 2012 1:00pm PST
has failed us again. because even if we get something that avoids the fiscal cliff by some makeshift deal, it's not addressing the real problem, and the real problem is somehow we're going to come up with $1.2 trillion or more in revenue and significant spending cuts on all sides including military cuts and entitlement cuts so we can actually put our debt under control. until we do that, all we're doing is kicking the can down the road. now, is there a value to kicking the can down the road in avoiding the fiscal cliff? yes. but if they go over the cliff and then fix it in the next week with another stopgap, is there any real harm? who knows. if that make it is easier for republicans to vote for it, is it a disaster? probably not. but understand we had seven weeks in which we could have a done a big deal which would have gotten the debt under control, would have caused the economy to -- it would have been a catalyst to have this economy take off, and we blew it. we blew it. >> you know, governor dean, to that point here we are essentially looking over the abyss of the fiscal cliff, a
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